People-Pleasing at Work: What Codependency Teaches Us About Leadership
A woman sits across from her boss in his first week of trusting her with the truth. He says, “I need someone to be honest with me.” And in her head, before she can stop it, a different sentence forms: there is no way in hell I am going to be honest with this man. He is my paycheck. I cannot afford to lose that.
That's not a personality quirk. That's codependency showing up at work, and it is far more common in leadership than most of us want to admit.
In this episode of Let's HEAL! with Beth Jones, I talk with Kathy Love: two-time TEDx speaker, self-care coach, and someone whose marriage collapsed alongside a federal investigation into her ex-husband's business. We go back to where the co-dependency pattern began, long before the marriage, and follow it into a boardroom, a courtroom, and, eventually, her own leadership.
The framework underneath this conversation is one I keep coming back to: Hope, Evolve, And Love, each one an action rather than a feeling. Hope starts with naming the pattern out loud. Evolve is the root-cause work. Love is what's left once you stop performing for people who were never asking you to.
Kathy's story is dramatic (an FBI card left in the front door will do that), but the pattern underneath it is ordinary. Co-dependency in her marriage was the same pattern that kept a talented employee from telling her manager the truth, and the same one that kept a manager from hearing it.
People-Pleasing Can Look Like Loyalty, Especially at Work.
Kathy didn't call herself codependent for most of her life. She called herself devoted. She was the wife who cooked, who showed up to every event, who, in her words, tried out for the role of wife. When there was stress in the marriage, her question was never, “What's wrong with this?” It was always what can I do better.
That question sounds like commitment. It sounds like the kind of person a company wants to hire, promote, and hand a team to. But underneath it, per Kathy, was a much older belief: that she had to earn her place, and that the earning never really finished.
Ten years into working for her boss, a solopreneur who told her point-blank, I need someone to be honest with me, Kathy discovered the same pattern had followed her into her job. He was asking her for the one thing she couldn't give him.
“He was my boss, and he was my paycheck. I couldn't afford to lose that. That's not loyalty. That's survival.”
The Root Cause Almost Always Starts Long Before the Job.
When I asked Kathy where this began, she didn't point to her marriage. She pointed further back, to a first boyfriend who reinforced a belief that formed even earlier, around first grade: that being chosen was the proof she was worthy of anything at all.
By the time she met her future husband at twenty-three, she wasn't looking for a partner so much as a verdict. He looked her in the eye. He listened. That was, in her words, all she needed. It felt like love, and for a long time, it was close enough.
This is the part of the story that a leader evaluating whether this conversation belongs in front of her team should sit with the longest. The employee who can't push back in a meeting, who over-apologizes, who takes on every extra project without being asked: that behavior rarely starts at the office. It starts wherever the person first learned that love, safety, or belonging had to be earned.
Kathy is careful about one thing, though: she doesn't think any of this makes her, or anyone else, broken. “We are all on the spectrum of codependency somewhere,” she told me. The question isn't whether you feel a pull toward being needed, liked, or chosen. It's whether that pull is quietly driving your behavior without your permission.
And when I asked her to go back even further than the marriage, she went to her parents. Not to blame them (she was clear about that), but to understand them. Her mother has told her, more than once, I wish I had someone like you to talk to back then. That's not an excuse for the pattern. It's the honest starting point for understanding where it came from.
What People-Pleasing Can Look Like at Work.
- Agreeing in the meeting and resenting it by the parking lot
- Taking on more work rather than risk disappointing someone
- Softening honest feedback until it says nothing at all
- Staying quiet about a problem until it becomes a crisis
- Measuring your worth by how needed you are, not by the work itself
Here Is What the Pattern Looks Like in the Room.
For years, when Kathy raised concerns about her husband’s business, she was told she simply didn't understand. Then came a government investigation, a bankruptcy filing, a repossessed car, and eventually a contact card left by the FBI on her front door. The community she lived in had just published an article calling her a local leader. Weeks later, she says, that article felt like her own obituary.
“That article felt like my obituary… life as I had known it was over.”
Healing the Pattern Changes How You Lead.
Years later, in a job with a different boss, one who, as Kathy tells it, kept saying “continue to do that” every time she spoke up, something in her finally shifted. She built enough trust in herself to disagree without needing to win.
When a team member turned in a presentation, and everyone told her it was great, Kathy didn't. She spent an hour on the phone giving real feedback instead. Not because she enjoys conflict. Because she's learned that sugarcoating helps no one, and that a debate isn't the same thing as an argument.
“Authentic isn't just showing who I am. It's being truthful in my interactions with people.”
What This Means If You Are Building a Team.
If you lead people, you may have a Kathy on your team, maybe more than one. The person who never pushes back, who takes on the extra project without being asked, who tells you your idea is great before she's finished hearing it. That isn't necessarily strong performance. Sometimes it's a survival pattern wearing a company badge.
The good news is the same one Kathy discovered: trust built slowly, through being told more than once to continue speaking up, eventually produces honesty rather than compliance. That's a better leadership behavior for everyone in the room, not just the person doing the healing. [https://leadmagnet.empoweredsurvivors.com/self-assessment]
This is usually where organizations notice the cost without naming it correctly. A team that never disagrees with its leader in the room, an exit interview that surfaces something no one raised while the person was still employed, a watercooler conversation that never quite makes it into a real one: these are downstream signs of the same pattern Kathy describes. Naming it codependency, rather than a communication or culture issue, makes it possible to actually address.
You, too, can heal.
If this named something you've been carrying into your own leadership, or your own team, I'd love to hear from you. Email me directly at beth@empoweredsurvivors.com.
You might also like: External Validation Leadership with Molly Moore Smith
FAQ's
It often looks like over-functioning: taking on extra work, softening honest feedback, or agreeing in meetings while disagreeing internally. These are frequently survival patterns rather than personality traits, formed long before the job began.
For many leaders, it's a trauma response that formed in childhood or an early relationship and later showed up as leadership behavior. Recognizing the root cause is the first step to changing it.
Yes. A leader who cannot give or receive honest feedback tends to build a team that mirrors that avoidance, which erodes trust in leadership over time.
Kathy Love describes building trust in small moments, being told to continue speaking up until it became safe to do so consistently. Change tends to happen gradually, through repeated small acts of honesty rather than through a single dramatic confrontation.
It frequently traces back to an early belief that love, safety, or belonging had to be earned through performance. That belief, formed well before someone's first job, quietly directs how they show up in leadership.
Beth Jones
Leadership Performance Strategist | The HEALing Mentor | Founder, Empowered Survivors
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